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Title: Suspension Problem?
Post by: GoddessShip on May 08, 2003, 01:02:50 PM
I own a 02 I got last August.  When I get in my car after it is sitting for a while start it up - go - turn the wheel, there is a rubbing/bump noise that sounds like it is my suspension.  It doesn't do it all the time, only when the suspension is raised.  Does anyone else have this problem?  My dealership can't figure it out.  But they can't seem to find their way out of a paper bag.


Title: Suspension Problem?
Post by: 0aztek3 on May 08, 2003, 01:30:27 PM
I think I know what you are talking about.  I get a kind of groaning/rubbing noise that lasts for a second soon after putting it in gear and moving a few feet(it happens in reverse or drive). I can usually feel a vibration in the steering wheel when it happens too. It usually happens when the engine is not at operating temperature. Am I describing what is happening to you? My parents have a Mitsu Diamante the does the exact same thing on occasion. I've been wondering what this is. Can anyone shed some light on this?


Title: Suspension Problem?
Post by: rylowe on May 08, 2003, 01:55:12 PM
Mine does it too! I had thought it was just an unlevel spot in the parking lot where i park, but it has happened outside of there too. It sounds and feels almost like my tires slide an inch or so sideways, though i know this is not what is happening. anyone who has any info on this subject please shed some light for us.


Title: Suspension Problem?
Post by: AZteXtasy on May 08, 2003, 02:04:56 PM
You guys,gals aren't making it easy
all three describe different things

NEED MORE INFO, NEED MORE INFO

Goddess' sounds like the top strut bearing plate?
03's frnt wheel bearing
Ry's racnpinyon

LOL  


Title: Suspension Problem?
Post by: GoddessShip on May 08, 2003, 02:13:53 PM
What would the strut bearing plate be doing to make that noise?

 


Title: Suspension Problem?
Post by: 0aztek3 on May 08, 2003, 04:00:35 PM
Hmm... I've had the front wheel bearings go out on a Nissan I used to have, but noise was continuous loud hum type thing only when moving. I'm lost??


Title: Suspension Problem?
Post by: AztekAndrew on May 08, 2003, 04:06:16 PM
03, Sounds like the Anti-Lock brake check.   This check causes a sound and vibration everytime the car is started, during the first few feet of travel.

Goddess Ship,  Could be the same thing?  Except to test, don't do any turning.  No turning needed to check the brakes!

RY, Don't know, but doesn't sound quite like the others.

 


Title: Suspension Problem?
Post by: GoddessShip on May 09, 2003, 06:45:13 AM
The noise only happens when I turn the wheel, and it only happens after it has been sitting from 5 minutes  +.


Title: Suspension Problem?
Post by: 0aztek3 on May 09, 2003, 07:11:29 AM
Aztekandrew,

I had that test thing in the back of my mind. Yup, thats got to be it. Just wasn't familiar with it, since my Imp doesn't do it. It should say something about this in the owners manual! Thanks


Title: Suspension Problem?
Post by: AZteXtasy on May 09, 2003, 07:21:55 AM
Goddes
the top of the strut housing has a plate that mounts between the tower and the body
It is very common, when they get worn [so probably not likely on the AZ]
that they make sounds when you turn??growning or thumping

You mentioned "when suspension is raised"
can you elaborate?


Title: Suspension Problem?
Post by: GoddessShip on May 09, 2003, 07:57:01 AM
I brought my car in yesterday for service on something different and I told them I was doing research on the noise on the front of my car and I asked them to check the Strut Bearing Plate.  He actually looked very angry when I said that and just said FINE.  So thank you for making me look good!    :wave:

The noise seems to happen for example:

In the morning when I get in to go to work I take 2 turns out of my driveway and I hear it  them.  But after that when I make a turn I can't hear it.

4 hours later when I go to get lunch I get in and make 2 turns out of the parking lot and it make the noise.  But non after that.

1/2 hour my car has been sitting in my driveway and again I take 2 turns out of my drive way and I hear it.

So when I said "when my suspension is raised"  that is what I mean.

All I have to do to show you the noise is drive it to you (say we are in a parking spot with a car on each side)- I get out of my car - let is sit for about 60 seconds - both of us get in and I pull out of the parking spot straight a little then turn (doens't matter what way) and you can hear the noise.


Title: Suspension Problem?
Post by: Krystl on May 09, 2003, 11:43:27 AM
If it happens every time you start it, sounds like it is the ABS brake thing.

Mine does it too, when I start it and put it in gear and start rolling (or turn the wheel), I hear a little rubbing noise and feel a little resistance almost. That's the best way I can describe it. Only lasts for a second or two.


Title: Suspension Problem?
Post by: GoddessShip on May 09, 2003, 11:52:56 AM
OH So has anyone brought this to their Service Deparments Attention???  My Service guy thinks I am crazy!!  If anyone has please let all of us know what the problem.  Why can't the Service Dept figure this out?


Title: Suspension Problem?
Post by: godrulz on July 10, 2003, 11:09:52 AM
My weird humming noise was fixed under warranty by replacing both front wheel bearings/hub assembly. It was worse when cornering. I thought it was pwer steering, engine, or transmission. They actually used a stethoscope to listen to the noise and diagnose. They figured this out quickly. An end tie rod also had excessive play so they replaced it. The sound is now gone. I had about 50,000 km at the time (30,000 miles).

Apparently potholes can be a culprit, but since I had no tire damage they replaced it under warranty ($800 repair?).


Title: Suspension Problem?
Post by: Tom Moog on July 10, 2003, 11:40:49 AM
This may be out in left field, but it sounds to me like this could be the deal:

When you turn your wheels all the way one way or another, get out and compare their positions to each other... you will notice that they are not perfectly lined up with each other. (When you turn your wheels all the way, you wind up with positive camber, and negative toe) (I may have that in reverse)

Anyway, when you let the tek sit for a while with the wheels turned this way, the suspension will relax and settle. If you turn hard and take off, you might end up "dragging" the tire opposite the direction you are turning an inch or so which would sound and feel like you described.

Does this occur before you move the vehicle at all after it has been sitting for a while, or does it happen even after you have moved? If it only does it the first time you move the car, then this might be the deal.


Title: Suspension Problem?
Post by: GoddessShip on July 15, 2003, 11:29:28 AM
The noise happens after I get in, put in drive, and move out of my parking spot.  After that I cannot hear it until it sits again, or if I get out wait 30 seconds and get in and do the above again.