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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2003, 09:58:07 PM »

So here's the reverse question... Why not set the parking brake every time you park your car?  Any compelling reasons?  After learning a few weeks ago about the breaks, and listening to some arguments about protecting the transmission, I've been setting mine very regularly.

 
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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2003, 10:18:38 PM »

Well, I pull in and out of my driveway several times a day, so the parking brake gets set quite often during the day.
According to that mechanic who was quoted in an earlier post, you don't need to set it every time, just on a regular basis. A couple of times a day is pretty regular! Cheesy  
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« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2003, 10:15:52 AM »

Parking Brake?--What parking brake?
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Yea, I know--but when you get older, you forget things
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« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2003, 11:51:37 AM »

I have also had brake problems.  I have 2002 AWD that I bought in October 2002.  My front brake pads and rotors were replaced (warranty) in December (3,000 miles).  Plus, I just recently had my back rotors resurfaced and brake pads replaced (9,000 miles) also under warranty.  The dealership was great about doing the work but I am a bit concerned about the frequency.  My other vehicles (all Fords) did not require brake work until around 40,000 miles.

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« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2003, 07:46:57 AM »

I have the darndest thing happen to mine.  Depending on the weather, YAz gets a case of the squealies when stopping -- BUT -- that's not my problem.

When I take YAz up over 54 MPH, he squeals like a little girl.  I don't understand.  It's like the brakes get "stuck" even though I'm not using them.  No slowdown in the car when it happens.  Just an "eeeeeeekkkkkk" which embarrasses YAz when people turn their heads.  Again, this appears to only happen in certain weather conditions.  It just started again after being silent for almost a year.  I have raised the question numerous times and have been assured the brakes are in perfect working order.  If it weren't for unwitting passenger-witnesses, I'd start to think I'm crazy! :wacko:

Any advice or experience with the same problem?
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« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2003, 08:01:45 AM »

It is hard to diagnose over the Internet, but
does the sound at 50+ go away, if you lightly touch the brake?

sometimes a caliper or parking brake cable can hang up a little and cause the pads or shoes to drag>> if it goes away you know it is in the brakes
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« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2003, 10:23:06 AM »

Rich,

Thank you for the quick response.  Yes, it does go away when I tap the brakes.  Good call!

Should I be concerned over something like this?  I mean, is it a dangerous situation?  Or should I just keep tapping away until the little buggers decide they want to be replaced?

:-) Heather and YAz
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« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2003, 01:39:19 PM »

Heather
there would be three things of concern
the first 2 are most likely

On the brake pad, there is a metal indicator that lets you know, when the brakes are worn down> this is common, when you touch the brakes, the sound goes away

Newer vehicles use heavy metalic pads, and somtimes you get a section of pad where the metalic compound is heavier and causes this noise

The caliper or shoe is hanging up, causing exsessive heat and scoring to the rotor surface

What I would suggest is to have the brakes checked again
If it is down to the indicators, it is time for a brake job
If the pads or shoes are worn uneven, it would indicate something hanging up
If there is no visibe signs of a problem, you probably just need you rotors or drums resurfaced [if you can determine if it is front or rear]
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Sometimes a technician, or very qualified shade tree mechanic, will put the vehicle up in the air, take off the wheel, and hold a coarse grade emery cloth [sand paper] to both sides of the rotor while it is spinning, in drive
This is a good way to tell if it is noise created by rotor imperfections >>> if the sound goes away, it is not a safety issue, but may come back, someday
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You could just turn the stereo up louder Cheesy
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« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2003, 02:10:33 PM »

Wink You could also be experiencing a loose brake pad. Sometimes when the ears on the pad aren't bent over just right the pad floats and will stop squealing if you touch the brakes. Earlier GM pads came with a glue like substance to glue the one pad that floats the worst.

I just took my Tek in for vibration in the front brakes. After 12 years in the auto parts business I knew what the problem was and had no problem getting it corrected. Seems they're makling the rotors so cheap now a days that warped rotors on a vehicle is a common complaint. I wish someone would come out with a high performance rotor and caliper for the Tek.
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« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2003, 11:25:21 AM »

Wow, I never knew there was so much involved in brakes!  I am feeling a little woozy.   :blink:  LOL

I will print this all out and take it to the dealer.  They have been avoiding any work on their part, and now I know just how to rebut.

Thanks again!

 Cheesy Heather and YAz
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« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2003, 09:21:41 AM »

I live in RI (surrounded by water) and for the past 4 months everytime I come to a stop  or slow down my breaks squeak and it is really annoying.  The service center says it is rust on my breaks.  LIKE HUH?  They checked them and said they cleaned them. So for about 2 weeks nothing and it started back up again!  Why would rust be forming on my breaks all the time?

So does anyone know why there is rust on my breaks or is the dealership crazy??!! :gardu:  :spank:  :argue:  
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« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2003, 08:04:20 AM »

Using the emergency aka parking brake for adjustment only concerns those that have 4 wheel discs. After getting my brakes replaced on my first GM with 4 wheel discs, my brother who's GM certified mechanic, told me this was important to do periodically. Rear drums have an automatic adjusting feature.
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« Reply #27 on: July 10, 2003, 12:58:59 PM »

We have a 2001 model. It has about 50,000 miles now, and it is on it's 2nd set of front pads, and the rotors have been resurfaced twice. Shortly after the rotors were re-surfaced both times, the pedal started pulsating. The rotors seem to heat up & warp quickly. I have given up, but agree this is a design flaw. Also, the left wheel has lost the wear sensor twice.
I like the car, but these little things drive us nuts!! It's also been in for the wipers getting stuck, back lid not closing fully, radio changing stations and modes mysteriously, and 2 oil leaks - one at the intake manifold, and the other at the oil pan. It cost about $1200 to fix both. Also, the a/c condensor already went out too....$800. What a rip off! Thank God for extended warranties!! I already got my $$$$'s worth. :cry:  
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« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2003, 01:17:36 PM »

Aztek Road Warrior:
Welcome to the group.

I have the same complaint about my Tek's brakes. Problem is it's not just a tek problem but a GM problem. Back when rotors were made of real steel, were manufactured here in the USA  and weighed a few pounds we didn't have the problem with rotors warping. Now that the government is into CAFE and the manufacturers are rushing to lose weight and manufacturing these parts overseas there seems to be a large problem. The auto manufacturers quest for insane profits at the expense of the American worker is ridiculous.

My last two GM cars suffered at different times with warped rotors. I spent 11 years in the auto parts business in the 70's and 80's and my brother is a GM certified mechanic. It is not uncommon, and my brother reccomends it at every brake change, to have to replace the rotors. There so thin 45,000 miles and their out of specs.

I also had the problem with the wipers and 2 minutes in a competent dealership and the problem was fixed.

I hope you enjoy your stay here it's an awesome group with a wealth of information.

Jack :wave:  :cooldude:  :lolu:

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« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2003, 02:34:14 PM »

Thanks Jack. Now that makes sense....more than anyone else at the dealership! They keep telling me the brakes are fine...well, they are not!! Too bad because even tho I have always had GM products (among others) I really have a bad taste in my mouth for G.M. now. They don't seem too concerned about anything. I have had great luck with my Toyota, so guess where I'll be heading for my next ride? Again, too bad because I really do like this car and it's features....Thanks for the welcome. This site is great!! :wave:  
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