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« on: July 26, 2007, 07:31:18 AM »

Driving to work today, thinking how I need an oil change - yet life is too busy to go and get one... then I thought do I REALLY need one? Does the 19XX "old school" thinking - of time/miles - still apply to Y2K Millennium 2001-2005 Azteks? Or can I trust the computer to "know" when the oil truly needs replaced (save $$  :rolleyes:) and maximize - not waste good oil?
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2007, 08:16:26 AM »

I was changing mine about every 3000 miles, but switched to synthetic 10W30 when my engine had to be stripped to change the head gaskets. 
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2007, 08:45:31 AM »

This is a hotly debated topic,  there are various lines of thinking.

There are some that swear by the every 3000 mile interval, they view it as cheap insurance for the life of their vehicle.

I myself follow the Computer in the Aztek, I called GM and they verified this is what we are suppose to do.

Do a google on "3000 mile Oil change myth" and look at someof the results.

As always when looking online consider the source when reading anything





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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2007, 11:21:32 AM »

To learn anything and everything about oil try,

http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?Cat=0

Actually there is to much info and everybody has their opinion.  Basically it comes down to, dino vs synthetic, oil monitor or mileage based OCI.

I am using Amsoil that they say can go up to 25000 miles between changes.  You can spend pennys or a lot of money.  I went to synthetic because of how hot the tek runs, plus a friend says he got a 2-3 mpg boost after changing to amsoil.  I have little faith in an oil monitor, the damage it can do if there is a glitch is not worth it for me.

If you change your oil every 3000 miles, you can use whatever is on sale, and if you change it yourself, you can do it for under $12 with a new filter.  Pretty cheap if you ask me for peace of mind.  Although most everybody says go by the oil monitor or tells me I am wasting good oil if I change it sooner than 4500 miles.

I follow no ones advice and am one who wastes money.  I got my Tek with 41,344 miles on it and have almost put on 2000 miles, and changed the oil 3 times my self.  First time was right after I got it (and right after the dealership just changed it, just because I wanted to see how easy it was.)  Then I wanted to try a synthetic (amsoil), but wanted to flush out the dino oil so I bought a cheaper synthetic and ran it for a couple hundred miles.  Then I put in the amsoil at $5.99 a quart, which I will of course change at 3000 mile intervals.  Again a waste I am sure, but I only put on about 4000 miles a year and for under $35 it is still cheap enough for me, to have piece of mind.

All the info on that site and the debates of which is better, lasts longer,10w-30 vs 5w-30s, is prettier or whatever, comes down to for me is that if you change every 3000 miles you just can't go wrong and you will never hurt your warranty or your engine.

I waste money in worst ways, like the Sponge Bob speaker phone that I HAD to have and used once, I will never get back the 2 hours of my life or the $2.99 I spent to watch "Little Miss Sunshine" and of course I smoke.  Although I do buy those cheap "little cigars" because I don't want to spend a lot an something that is going to kill me. Paid $400 for a metal detector because I always wanted one and used it once, I did find 37 cents though. Then the Senso Coffee maker, I bought even though I don't drink coffee, only bought it cause I didn't have a coffee maker and thought maybe someday I would want to try some.  I wonder if the package of coffee pods I bought for it 2 years ago are still good.  The $169.00, 7.1 surround sound speaker system for my computer plus $179  audio card, that I don't listen to music on.  A 65 inch TV I rarely use.  $500 for a gas stainless steel gas grill I used twice this year.  Donated $1200 to a casino one day.  $250 for a dvd recorder, that I have never recorded a dvd on.  Then the Bears jersey I bought just to burn at a Packers party, well I guess that wasn't really a waste.

The list is endless...

So spending about $35 twice a year on an oil change is actually not a bad investment for me.

Again if you change it every 3000 miles or so you have nothing to worry about.


SCUBAztek, with the oil monitor, just roughly how many miles do you get with the oil monitor?  Just curious.

Take care,
Tim

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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2007, 12:16:22 PM »

Usually around 10000 kms (about 6250miles)

The manual does not recommend going past 16000kms or 12 months



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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2007, 05:35:07 PM »

I ususlly take mine a quick oil change place the same one i have used for years. I take mine when my oil either comes on or when my oil life percent is low on DIC
 
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2007, 06:48:39 PM »

I do when i reach 20%  thats usually 5500 miles
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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2007, 07:24:50 PM »

Siimply every 3G clicks.  Inexpensive routine maintenance, and it can't harm the vehicle.
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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2007, 08:19:36 PM »

since I am running mostly highways lately, I've been doing my oil changes about every 4,000 miles.   Those 4000 miles came quickly this last time around-  about 5 weeks, but that did include the 1500 miles on the week of the Rally.

Oil-  I use whatever the dealership puts in my Tek.
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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2007, 08:39:17 PM »

oil changes...
I run Mobil 1 in our Aztek's. and go between 7000 -8000 miles. no problems yet.  ( just passed over one hundred thousand miles going to the Rally this year)
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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2007, 08:44:28 PM »

oil changes...
I run Mobil 1 in our Aztek's. and go between 7000 -8000 miles. no problems yet.  ( just passed over one hundred thousand miles going to the Rally this year)
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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2007, 06:29:54 AM »

I run anywhere between 4K and 6K between changes. I do look at the DIC but will change it at a maximum of 2 month intervals , which ususally is 4500 to 6000 miles, or when I have a spare moment to drive into the dealership.

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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2007, 08:07:42 AM »

oil changes...
I run Mobil 1 in our Aztek's. and go between 7000 -8000 miles. no problems yet.  ( just passed over one hundred thousand miles going to the Rally this year)
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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2007, 08:51:12 PM »

I check the computer but I don't wait for the light.  I usually change it after about 20% oil life is left
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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2007, 10:15:07 AM »

Seeing how the Tek is my first NEW car, I don't know how to not go over 3000 miles. I figure this time around, I'll check the color of the oil on the dipstick when I cross the 3K mile limit. If it's stil clean, I'll try another 1500. After that, I'll change it like everyone else says. So 4500 is a good changing point? I do mostly highway miles, so I want to make sure.
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