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Sebastian
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« on: March 01, 2017, 06:02:09 PM »

Have only one key so I had a new spare cut at a local locksmith.  Thought I could program it myself since I have one good key, but multiple attempts failed.  Then I read online that if my VIN starts with a 2 or 3 (of course mine is a 3), the usual procedure won't work because the car was not made in the USA.  Called the dealer service department to see how much to program the key and he told me the procedure I was using "should work" and didn't seem to know anything about the VIN # being an issue.

Has anyone else had this issue?  Have you been able to program your key yourself, and if so, how please?
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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2017, 02:21:27 AM »

I am quite certain that what you heard is not true.

My VIN starts with a 3 and I had no problem programming a 2nd key.

Did you start with a genuine GM key blank, not an aftermarket?

A genuine key blank will be marked with a PK3 on the metal part closest to the plastic. 

I bought my 2nd key from a seller on ebay.  It was a geniune Pontiac key (new in a sealed Pontiac/GM bag with Pontiac logo). 

Assuming you have a key that works (is able to start your Aztek), do the following:

1. Insert the "Original" (working) Key.
2. Turn the Ignition to ON (RUN), but do NOT start the engine. 
3. Turn the Ignition OFF and remove the key.
4. Within 10 seconds (as quickly as you can) insert the new "duplicate" key and turn the Ignition to the ON position. 
5. Turn the Ignition to OFF and remove the key.

Your new key should now be able to start and run your Aztek.

Be sure to turn the key all the way to RUN.  There may be a position before RUN that allows accessories (like the radio) to be used.  You have to turn the key to the point where turning it further will start the car.


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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2017, 12:42:16 PM »

I bought the key and had it cut at a reputable locksmith store.  They tried it in the door and ignition and it turns.  I have tried to program it multiple times using the exact method you describe.  The dealer service department told me to use that very same method.  The security light comes on and the chime rings 2 or 3 times, but then the key will still not start the car.

 My original key has PK3 stamped into the top of the key shaft.  The replacement key does not.  Could that be the problem?

Addendum:  I may have discovered the problem.  I think they sold me a clone key, which can only be programmed by a locksmith.  I need a programmable key.  Luckily they guarantee their work, so they can either get the correct key for me or maybe they'll offer to program the one they already cut free since it's their mistake.
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2017, 05:17:25 PM »

If the second key is not PK3, it won't work.

People talk about programming a key, but you're really programming the car to recognize the key. But, it has to have the correct chip in it; keys marked with the PK3. Who ever sold you the key cannot make it work without the car and the correct embedded chip. You will not have a problem if you have a key with PK3 on it.

Here is a current ebay link to the correct key blank, http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-SEALED-Pontiac-Logo-PK3-Transponder-Chip-Key-Blank-88956263-5902386-93-GRV-/400281207425?hash=item5d329e8281:g:GkEAAOSwrklVS8Im&vxp=mtr

We had only one key. We read on here how the new key MUST have the PK3 on it and should really be an OEM Pontiac key. We had no problem getting it programmed just like Bill stepped through. This was only a few weeks ago.

P.S. our VIN starts with a 3, so there can't be any truth to the VIN story.
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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2017, 05:43:33 PM »

Sebastian

My guess is that it's the key you are using.  

OEM keys will have PK3 on the key (to indicate that there's a PassKey III security chip inside).  

If your key doesn't have PK3 stamped on it, maybe that's your problem?

If it were me, I would try it using a Genuine GM key blank (maybe from the dealer if you can't find one on ebay).

You need one that is type B99-PT, and it doesn't matter if it has the Pontiac, Buick, or Cadillac logo on it, as long as it has one of them and it's genuine GM.

I was just posting this when I got a notice that Wingnutandme had posted a reply.

Everything he said sounds right, except the ebay link points to a key that isn't compatible with your Aztek (the grooves are cut for other model cars).  I compared it to my key and I think you really need one that is marked as B99-PT.

This one from that same seller will work (if you don't mine the Buick logo):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OEM-SEALED-Buick-Logo-Transponder-Chip-Key-Blank-PK3-75-GRV-B99-PT-692952-/181540536324?hash=item2a44a8c004:g:z9QAAOSwgkRVUN2p

Or there is this one with the Pontiac logo:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/331917932341?ul_noapp=true

It looks like Strattec is the OEM supplier, and you want one with a part number of 692954.







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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2017, 06:14:07 PM »

Thanks, Bill

Haste makes waste. I did post a link to the incorrect key. We still have the plastic bag for the OEM one we recently bought and programmed. It's a Strattec like shown, but it has the part number, 692954, that Bill mentions.
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2017, 03:57:02 PM »

Thanks for all the responses.  The problem was the key itself.  The locksmith inadvertently sold me a clone key by mistake so he programmed it for me at no charge  (and told me he was not only sorry for the confusion and inconvenience to me but sorry for himself, too, since clone keys and programming are much more expensive than the one I wanted to begin with).   

What I did learn is that if I ever need a key for a GM car, I will buy a blank off eBay, where they are WAY less expensive than buying them from the dealer or locksmith or even Walmart.
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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2017, 07:54:44 PM »

Sebastian

Hey, glad it worked out!

You'll also find that buying key fobs are best done on ebay too.  The fob cases break where the keys attach - the key ring attachment point is kind of wimpy - I've had 3 of them break just by dropping my keys!  You can program the car to accept new fobs yourself - no need to pay a dealer.  Also, the last time I checked you can get just the fob cases (no circuit board) on ebay too - really cheap.  Always good to have a spare!



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