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Title: RALLY THOUGHTS
Post by: Melo Yelo on June 29, 2005, 07:13:32 PM
Cool! I get to go first!!! :lol:

I think Cedar Point cut in to the "social time" and I enjoyed the swapmeet, and campfire/cookout, that Scott put his daughter in charge of  :D

Melo  


Title: RALLY THOUGHTS
Post by: bad_azz_tek on June 29, 2005, 09:43:34 PM
We had a great time.... I do agree however that Cedar Point cut into "social time". Having brought our 2 boyz with us and the fact that we paid over $100 just for point tickets, we stayed at the park and missed out on most of the social time. Wish we had another day at the camp ground.  I havent been camping since i was a kid but i enjoyed it very much. I know you were gonna get feedback about this campgrounds and i enjoyed it there and wouldnt mind it if we stayed there again next year.

Also i would have enjoyed it more if on Friday we just gathered at our campground and had dinner and raffle and all there..... i didnt see the benefit of being at the dealership ( other than they prolly provided the food ).

 


Title: RALLY THOUGHTS
Post by: ANDE2004 on June 29, 2005, 10:22:11 PM
I am sure that my husband will have some other thoughts to add, but the thing that we have talked about amongst ourselves mostly, was the regret over the weather conditions for cedar point.  Now granted, we have no control over the weather of course, but if I had known how it was going to be, I would have forgon buying the tickets and taken the boys fishing instead.  So, as an alternative, Ken and I talked about doing this again next year, and have agreed that if we do,  we will go to Cedar point on our own time, preferably on a weekday, or after the sun goes down.  We also paid over $120 for the tickets and we were one of the first to leave due to the long lines and high heat.  We didnt get to ride a single coaster, and certainly didnt have any family fun.  NOW OF COURSE, this is IN NO PART, anyones fault and should not be construed as that.  I am simply saying that if we do this again next year, we will definately not do the Saturday morning 10 am Cedar Point thing.  Of course just my luck next year it will be an enjoyable 70 degrees at 10 am and we will be the only one sitting at the campground.  I am also in agreement with a before mentiond idea of making Friday afternoon and night a sit at the campground and cook day and socialize instead of going to the dealership.  It was way too hot to stand in line for food and when we got up there there wasnt any food left for any of us anyway, we did manage to snag a small handfull of chips....lol.  

And in hindsight, my only regret is that we didnt all group together for a pic so that we could get an idea of the number of people that were present.

I liked the campground, really didnt have too many complaints there.  Some days there wasnt any toilet paper, and the washer machine conked out on me, and if you used the very first toilet in the ladies room you got showered on with water from the shower behind you, but other than that..........lol.  It was very livable and we are considering making our trip next year a whole week of camping.  Oh, and I am willing to sleep in a tek tent next year, I have finally conceded!

I appreciated the efforts of the organizers in assuring that we all got to convoy where ever we went, it added to the thrill and enjoyment.  Thanks to Randy and Adrian for sacrificing your tek to be the blockade..."some of you may not come back, but its a sacrifice I am willing to make."

well thats about it for now, except for me to say I am sorry that I/we didnt get to actually introduce ourselves to everyone,  perhaps next year we can all take a second at the beginning to say hello, state your user name, which car you drive, and maybe point out the dependents and wave hello to everyone. :wave:

well thats it, thanks for listening!
Sharon


Title: RALLY THOUGHTS
Post by: Newfie Hauler on June 30, 2005, 05:46:37 AM
I thoroughly enjoyed everything.  I think the dealership meeting did work well in the past with a smaller group.  I am not sure if it was more the fact that our group has grown or if it was the heat that was the main issue.  It was great that Steinle did provide us a gathering place, some free food (I too missed out as I was too busy talking to people LOL) and a live radio feed.  Perhaps maybe replace it with an evening "Cruise" through downtown Sandusky or Fremont maybe with a stop at the dealership or use the dealership as the starting place for the cruise?  Just a thought.

Sharon commented quite well on the heat issues on Saturday at Cedar Point.   Next year we will be bringing our infant son and I doubt he will be big enough yet to take part in many of the rides anyway.  So, my wife and I will have to explore some other things to do on Saturday.

I do have one regret and that is that due to the heat and the busy schedule we had that I was not able to conduct all of the Aztek Tek Training Sessions that I wanted to.  A few members joined me on Saturday night to discuss some issues, but most everyone else was pretty busy.  Now I have the training manual located on my website that all of you will be able to download.  Please let me know if you have any questions or need additional information.  The manual can be found at http://www.newfiehauler.com (http://www.newfiehauler.com)  Please note that this is a work in progress.  I am in the process of adding illustrations and making additional text updates to it.  So you may want to visit the site occassionally and see if I have made any changes.  I have placed this information here and not on the general site at this time because it is one of the benefits that you have for taking the time and making the effort to attend the Rally.

Lastly,  I again want to thank all of you for attending the Rally and giving me the opportunity to meet each and every one of you.  These are memories that I will keep with me forever!  You know that we will be adding some new memories next year.........that year cannot come soon enough!

Newfie


Title: RALLY THOUGHTS
Post by: BabyBeastie on June 30, 2005, 06:25:32 AM
I had a great time, I only wish I camped instead of hoteling it.   Next year I will camp, even if its only sleeping across the hood of my car like some deer.   I also agree that I do not see the point of the dealership.   Next year there will be even less of a point when there are no 2006 model teks.   :cry1:    

But to be honest, I think the organizers did a great job and I thank you.

Baby Beastie.

Judy

 


Title: RALLY THOUGHTS
Post by: smartaxel on June 30, 2005, 06:25:53 AM
Hmm...

I kinda liked things as they were..  This was my first Tek rally, but I think Cedar Point and the Dealership allowed different situations for socializing.  I really enjoyed the whole caravan of Teks to the dealership also.  

I met a few cool new people at the dealership.. folks I prob wouldnt have run into at the campsite, and we got to pal around Cedar Point with a new friend also.  

I think if it were just camping, it could get boring, as people have a tendency to group together. and attention spans arent always that long.  I know three straight days of camping wouldn't be overly appealing to some people.  If you throw in other unique situations, it forces (quiet) people to socialize and get together, and it offers incentives to people with shorter attention spans to come.

Cedar Point is expensive. If you want to get rid of that, what about some cool group activities Like the lighthouse. or maybe a trip to outlet malls, or the dealership, or some tek training, or fishing, or....  Things that get people together into groups.  Or keep cedar point, but make it as an activity that some go on, but have other activities going on the same time for others that chose not to do it.

Otherwise, i had a great time. I'm pretty critical usually, and the only issue I thought may have flown easier was having signs at the dealership pointing to where we were all supposed to park.

Overall. sorry, i can't really rag on it. Think it was a blast, and we'll be there next year.


Title: RALLY THOUGHTS
Post by: SCUBAztek on June 30, 2005, 07:02:01 AM
Thanks again to all the Organizers for making this years Rally a lot of fun, your hard work really showed off.   There are a few areas that I think could have made it better.

Provide Name tags for all that attend.    Maybe have the Username (Name), where from and a picture of their Tek. ( I would be willing to make them up for everyone next year). I am terrible with names as are others and this would help.

Something Like this
(http://www.kkrphoto.com/rally2006.jpg)


Jolene and I were also talking and we said that next year we will forgo Cedar Point and hang out at the Campground instead, the entire day at Cedar point we only ran in to 3 other Tek’ers,  Jim, Kim and Mandy Sue. I like ANDE2004’s idea of going Fishing, A half day tournament (8am-Noon) would be fun, prize for the first fish, biggest fish and most fish, one for the kids one for the adults, this would still leave time to socialize at the campground for the rest of the day. (Again I would help organize this)

One other area is not so much for the organizers as for the attendees, an effort has to be made to get around and try to meet everyone,  I am guilty myself of not being outgoing enough to stop and meet everyone, next year that is my goal.  We all have at LEAST one thing in common; we all drive the most Versatile Vehicle on the Planet, so right there we have an ice breaker.

Thanks again to all who made this a wonderful weekend. Can't wait until we meet again




 

 


Title: RALLY THOUGHTS
Post by: Yellowfever13 on June 30, 2005, 08:09:26 AM
:code7: You guys know i'm always ready with my 2 cents, so I'm gonna spend it all in one place!

I thought the Rally (my first) was a blast. I have expressed some changes that seemed to be agreeing with the mainstream....

*The dealer was fine, but move it to Saturday (morning or lunchtime)

*Leave Friday for a chance to for everyone to get unpacked and be able unwind from their long journeys

*Move Cedar Point to Monday for those who want a chance to go on rides. It wasn't happening on Saturday..too crowded.

*The best part I felt was everyone pitching in food, side dishes, snacks, pop, and beer to share. Nice! I enjoy cooking (especially BBQ). maybe next if if it's not so hot, I could bring a few double batches of my famous chili (spicy and non spicy batches).

Since we only have 2 days together, We should look at things we can do at the campsite (pick up games of softball, frisbee, catch, etc. (there's my Grateful Dead side starting to pop out! I can sell some grilled cheese on rainbow bread out of the back of my Tek!)) as well as a few smaller activities that we could do outside the park. (Sightseeing, lunch etc.)

YF  


Title: RALLY THOUGHTS
Post by: MQV Son of Quinn on June 30, 2005, 11:33:31 AM
After reading these and talking to my significant other I agree we need to make some changes.

1. The dealership, I honestly think we should drop this from the agenda. It was my job to communicate with them and I got the feeling they weren't listening. We proposed a possible tek giveaway and until it was ready to be finalized everything was OK, then not. The comment I got from them as to the food was they didn't have an idea how many people were coming and they most certainly did. I know my wife gave them an earful considering how hard we've promoted the delaership. I know of 2 sales directly linked to this group. A Friday cookout at the campgrounds sounds like an awesome idea.

2.  Cedar Point I think the weather played a great part in what went on but agree we need to drop it or make it optional for families.

3. I know the organizers will be looking for fun things to do next year. We need and appreciate your feedback.

Jack

 


Title: RALLY THOUGHTS
Post by: smartaxel on June 30, 2005, 11:41:04 AM
Quote
the entire day at Cedar point we only ran in to 3 other Tek’ers,  Jim, Kim and Mandy Sue. .... <snip>
 an effort has to be made to get around and try to meet everyone,  I am guilty myself of not being outgoing enough to stop and meet everyone, next year that is my goal
Same sentiments here.. We're on the "hide in the corner" end of socializing too. Thing is, the initial drive to Cedar Point allowed our small group to meet, which actually made things easier too, because at that point we knew you guys coming into the rally

Hey, we'd have wandered Cedar Point when we saw you guys, but we weren't going on any more big rides at that point. (I never wnet on anything larger then the mine ride!). We knew you guys liked heights more then us.  lol.

 


Title: RALLY THOUGHTS
Post by: Jennygram60475 on June 30, 2005, 03:14:55 PM
THE BEST PART FOR ME WAS MEETING NEW FRIENDS, CONVOYING TO OHIO AND AROUND TOWN, COOKING WITH SCOTT'S DAUGHTER, "HAVING SCOTT JUMP ME", (LOL, HAD TO BE THERE!)  THE RAFFLE, THE GOODY BAGS.  AS FOR THE DEALERSHIP, WE COULD FOR GO IT OR MEET THERE FOR A CONVOY AROUND TOWN. CEDAR POINT WAS O.K BUT NOW, "BEEN THERE, DONE THAT!" , FOR AS HOT AS IT WAS A SMALL WATER PARK WOULD OF BEEN FUN, WATER BALLOON TOSS, THE GUYS DOING A CAR WASH IN SPEEDO'S.  SORRY I DON'T CAMP IN A TENT AND I CAN'T HAUL MY POP-UP WITH THE TEK SO I COULD TRY ONE OF THE CABINS NEXT TIME, BUT I NEED A/C!
WOULD OF REALLY LIKED TO MEET & GREET THOSE QUITE ONE'S. NEXT TIME WE CAN DO THE POTLUCK AROUND THE FIRE, ROAST WIENY'S.
I WILL CLEAR MY SCHEDULE FOR NEXT YEAR JUNE 23-25, 2006.
MISS YA GUYS!, SEND ME E-MAIL HI'S


Title: RALLY THOUGHTS
Post by: Newfie Hauler on July 01, 2005, 05:53:36 AM
i noticed a discussion has started in one of the other forums here about the dates for the 2006 Rally.  I thought that is might be more appropriate to discuss this here.  Here are my thoughts.

I agree with the dates.  I think we would find that if you move the dates, you would find that no matter what someone could not attend for a variety of reasons (kids still in school, Father's Day, Mother's Day, Fourth of July, other vacations already planned, August is even hotter, kids going back to school etc.).  I agree with DJ Moose that if we could plan it when it would be a little cooler, that would be great, but then you run into other issues.

Jedi has a point and I think to solve that might be to open up the weekend even more.  How about having the Rally go from Friday through Monday?  Better yet, how about a week long Rally!  That way people can come and go as their schedule demands.  Just a thought.  You know me, anything we can do to make the Rally last longer is fine by me.

One other thought I had is seeing if there might be some kind of indoor venue that we could participate in that would be air conditioned.  Not knowing the Sandusky area all that well I am at a bit of a loss coming up with ideas.  However, someone had the idea of perhaps doing some of the water parks in the area.  That might be a way to stay cool.  The tough part is the unpredictability of the climate at this time of year.  It can be really hot or cool.

What do you think?

Side note:  Jennygram, the thought of some of the guys in Speedos doing a car wash.......lol bad visual there.  I don't think we would want to chase anyone away.  HEE HEE HEE

Newf


Title: RALLY THOUGHTS
Post by: MQV Son of Quinn on July 01, 2005, 06:18:17 AM
Here's what I posted on the 06 date forum. If it gets out of hand I'll close the topic.


We initially set the date for the first rally based on what the Northeast group was doing. Having set theirs for the end of July we didn't want to conflict with them. The first rally was a week earlier and had problems because it was fathers Day weekend.

I think you need to realize that this was definitely not a normal summer so far. Last year the temperature was in the 70's this year the 90's. Average temperature for this time of year is 80 degrees.

No matter when we plan it someone will have an exscuse for not being there. Earlier especially won't work because of the end of the school year. If we go later in the year we run the chance of having weather like we did this weekend. July and August are famous for the Bermuda Highs that caused the weekend steam out.

As for the dealership I think we'll drop them and just have a get together BBQ Friday night. Kim, Adrian, Scott, Elisha, Mark, Sharon and I will be looking at alternatives the next few months to see what may be viable alternatives. I think Cedar Point will be out for next year unless someone wants to do it Sunday or Monday on their own.

Jack
 


Title: RALLY THOUGHTS
Post by: Yellowfever13 on July 01, 2005, 09:41:28 AM
:code7: I guess i'm in the minority here, but the great feature of the Aztek is it's  ability to be used for camping. That's why we met at a camp ground, right? Ok, Going camping means, being hot, cold, wet, sometimes uncomfortable and fighting bugs. That's what makes it fun. I like experiencing all those things because it's different from my day to day life. You come home sweaty, kind of smelly, but that's because you've accomplished something!!

My best camping memory is when we went to the Wisconsin Dells area in the first week of October (first weekend after hunting season ended). We we're cold, there was frost, only my daughter's eyes were exposed as we sat around the campfire. I will never forget it. So I had 4-5 layers of clothes on and peeled them off (try not to picture that one ladies!) as the day got warmer. The crisp cool air meant we couldn't go swimming, but we went hiking and horse back riding and taught the kids how to shoot a compound bow at a target. You have to adapt.

I guess I saying I didn't mind the heat, although I prefer fall and cool weather over summer.  YF


Title: RALLY THOUGHTS
Post by: MQV Son of Quinn on July 01, 2005, 12:58:11 PM
I checked out the KOA site and they have cabins with bathrooms, showers and AC for the whimps AKA me who don't camp. They are a bit pricey but it would keep the group all together for the fun and activities. Here's a link to the site:

KOA (http://www.koa.com/where/oh/35164/)

Jack


Title: RALLY THOUGHTS
Post by: tiki tek on July 01, 2005, 02:33:11 PM
First off - Curt and I had a absotootly wonderball time!  The heat did play a huge factor (reason why we didn't go to Cedar Point), but I agree with YF - camping is it - huge aspect of what our Rally is all about.  Secondly - I also agree with Newfie - softball, frisbee, picnicing, hobnobbing, games - things that would get all of us out of our shells, mix it up and get us all socializing.  I love the convoy thing through town idea - I LOVED the convoy :D !  But I don't see a whole lot with the dealership

Of course with this group - no matter what happens, we are bound to have a blast!  Curt and I are in next year no matter what is decided!   :wave:

Tiki Tek
Tricia


Title: RALLY THOUGHTS
Post by: IRL-tek on July 01, 2005, 11:44:09 PM
Thanks for the opportunity to offer thoughts, ideas, opinions. We had a fun time at the campsite...it is definitely a relaxing place, and the fire in the evening was fun.
Maybe next year, we can ulogize the Aztek itself since it will be extinct :cry: .

1. I thought the dealership was a nice place to break the ice with people...such close quarters and all... however the dealership itself seemed unprepared for the arrival of any number >10-12 'teks.  Perhaps a different dealership would be an alternative to kick-off a Friday cruise.  The local Pontiac dealer here hosts a car show for all makes/models of Pontiac annually, and clears the entire lot of new vehicles to make room for displaying show cars.  I would have expected at least as much from Steinle.  
 
2.  Cedar Point would have been more fun if the heat hadn't been such a factor.
We did do several non-roller coaster rides, and the kids did have a blast, but it always came back to the heat.  I think it could be an option among a short list of
area attractions.  Weekday may also be easier, but there were an AWFUL number of tour buses there; it may be that way as much during the week.

3.  This being our first rally, and being rather quiet folks, it was somewhat difficult to mingle with people, especially at the campsite.  It was obvious that several couples/families had met before and were naturally clustering together.  I expect it will become less of an issue next time for us.  For the future, however, it would be nice to have a brief time for introductions of all attending.  I know someone had mentioned the same idea earlier...I second that thought.

4.  As mentioned earlier.... GROUP PHOTO!!!

Thanks again to everyone who made this year's rally a reality.  I expect to be there for '06, although would like to convoy with the WI/IL 'teks next time :cooldude:


Title: RALLY THOUGHTS
Post by: tanktek on July 02, 2005, 09:10:18 AM
First of all this ( my second rally) was a fun time I won't be forgetting for a long time thanks to everyone else in attendance and organizers.Even though the heat took me out of commision Friday evening I still had a lil juice in me to meet some of you before the night was over.
I do agree that the dealership should be scratched from the agenda next year. It didnt seem like they were as welcoming as they were last year to us. I only maybe saw a salesman out there once this year compared to last year when they actually joined us out there and even brought out more raffle goodies for us. We can have even better of a time on our own under the shade of a campground with a family style kindof potluck. The Aztek is a family vehicle anyway so why not have it family reunion style. ^_^
Saturday in opposition of trucking to cedar point. I agree with jolene that it would be neat to have a fishing day or evening. There are plenty of public fishing areas and docks to go to in the area. The only cost incurred there would be fishing supplies and a fishing liscence. It would be cheaper than cedar point by far and yet anothe chance to socialize with everyone. Who knows, maybe some one will drag in a Nessie and we can have one heck of a fish fry that night.
One thing that would be great to do is to have someone waiting at the bottom of the offramp or a good curve for the ultimate tek convoy picture to set up. Or maybe a grassy area that would fit all of the teks in a lineup with the owners standing besides them for a cool panoramic shot. ( family photo time)
Another neat thing I was also thinking about was the possibility of there being a real car show that weekend somewhere in the area. I know last year on the way to Fremont we drove right past one in downtown. I would be neat if we could find out the scheduling for a car show that weekend. If there was one we could contact the organization that is hosting it and see if they would approve of a timely scheduling of the running of the Azteks ( Actually slow cruising), through their car show. It might even cause some notoriety in the local paper if we did. Its not every day that a pack of azteks cruises allong through a car show.
But then how often do you see a group of teks camping alonside of a Delorean! ((( Did anyone else notice that Sunday morning, or was it just a delusion from the 2;30 bedtime for me. :unsure: ))

 


Title: RALLY THOUGHTS
Post by: ANDE2004 on July 02, 2005, 12:49:54 PM
Elisha:

I like the idea of the group photo, I too agree that it would have been AWESOME to have gathered all of the Teks and owners together for a huge panoramic picture. I know I DEFINATELY would have purchased a print had we done that!
I also agree that the convoy pics are something we should work on as well, you are correct that its not everyday that a convoy of Teks pass through your quiet little town.  It truly was an AWESOME sight!

I also have to add that maybe some name tags that include your AFC Screen name, and which Tek you own would help break the ice.  I saw a lot of folks there that arent that active in the forums, that made it hard to put a finger on just who they were, and some didnt really mingle much at all.  But Im just as guilty, It takes me a while to come out of my shell.

Maybe we could do a "Gathering of the families" the first night, after everyone has settle in, have each of us introduce ourselves and our familes, talk for a minute or two about where we are from, what we do (work), etc etc.  
We could make it not so much mandatory that everyone attend the ice breaker, but make sure we pass along the word that it is "highly encouraged" that each of us attend the "Gathering of the families" ice breaker on the first night..

How does that sound?

ANDE
 


Title: RALLY THOUGHTS
Post by: qt-3.14 on July 04, 2005, 04:29:55 PM
OK a couple of my thoughts-

1 the date- I think the date works, mainly because so many of us have kids, and we would have to deal with taking kids out of school in the Spring or the Fall. I know June there is the chance of the sweltering weather- but i think that was an abnormally hot weekend for the time of year- it could have just as easily been rainy in the 60's- one never knows.

2- the dealer and Cedar Point- I agree, lets drop them or like others have said make them an option for Sunday or even Monday. Monday would be good for the crowds, and to make it more of an option, it will save folks money and maybe make them more likely to come.

We can maybe do an Aztek caravan around some sites on Saturday and have a picnic lunch somewhere- maybe near the lake. This would be cheaper, and give more social time- Just one thought, and if it is a repeat of someone else's, I apologize.

On the gathering of the families idea- I like the  concept Ande, but I am thinking many are too shy to stand up in front of others- feels too much like school..lol. How about we send everyone coming a little "getting to knwo you" questionaire and have copies available for the attendees? You could read it, and give you something to break the ice when you meet someone.



Just a few small thoughts-

QT


Title: RALLY THOUGHTS
Post by: Melo Yelo on July 05, 2005, 03:53:28 PM
I think I can get info on the show in Fremont, And I know some that live there and may know the "right" lady in charge!

Also, I am becoming friends with the local paper... may not be bad idea to start plugging now for it...

I posted this on the other 2006 rally dates thread, but there is the idea of taking over Kellys Island.... the have a state campground... b&b's, swimming beaches, hiking, fishing (duh, the lake) tourist shops, etc.... oh and Brandy Alexander's... mmmmmm...

any thoughts?

I agree about the group photo, awesome idea...

Again, weather is out of our control, that just takes some prayer



 ;) Melo aka MelohuggyTek


Title: RALLY THOUGHTS
Post by: MadDog on July 08, 2005, 02:55:04 PM
My wife and I really enjoyed ourselfs. We just barely made it on Friday before the group departed to the dealer. And other the sponsership (and maybe money), I do not see much advantage to doing the dealer stop over.
The campground was nicely set up for the group, the bathrooms were BAD.
If the amusement park is part of next years events, we will skip it. With my wifes limitation on fully enjoying a facilty like that, we will spent the rest of that day doing something else. (An island?).
Other then that, we enjoyed our selfs and look forward to next year.
Thanks again and keep up the good work.

Ed & Jayme
2001 Yellow AWD


Title: RALLY THOUGHTS
Post by: MQV Son of Quinn on July 08, 2005, 07:39:41 PM
I wish you could have been here the first year. The delaership was hopping, the music was pounding and there were 11 of us. I do agree the dealership on Friday this year was a bust. We are planning on possibly moving the campgrounds, Kim and I are going to check out the KOA in the area, and ditch Cedar Point. Saturday could see us at a dealership in the morning and then cruising the Fremont car show in the evening. We hope to have everything laid out and planned before 2006 rolls around.

Jack


Title: RALLY THOUGHTS
Post by: Bill_K on July 10, 2005, 07:47:37 AM
We had a good time - My eldest daughter brought her Tek and has stated that next year her husband has expressed an interest in attending- this was the second rally
for my youngest daugher and I understand she wants to attend also- This has their
sister wondering what she missed, so there is a good possibility that all three of
my daughters may be there next year. As to the Cedar Point aspect of the rally,
 I feel it should be up to the family if they choose to go there. I favor the idea of a convoy through the area. I also agree with the person who expressed the point that
since there was no 2006 Tek that there was no reason to visit the dealership.
 Also, as a get-together, The concept of an indoor, Air-conditioned venue is appealing,
as is the idea of a water-park outing. Walking around CedarPoint and the long lines
involved may be more for the younger set. I wasn't that partial to the effort in return for a minute or so on the coasters. I keep following this thread as well as telling my kids the dates so they can make their plans.