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Author Topic: Winshield Wipers  (Read 12845 times)
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Newfie Hauler
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« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2004, 07:02:48 PM »

I replaced the windshield wiper blades on the Newfie Hauler today.  I have a few observations that I would like to share.  First, I measured the ones on my '02 once I had them off.  The driver's side blade on my '02 is definately 24" and the passenger side is 22".  It does help a lot to turn on the windshield washer once and turn the ignition off when the wipers reach their farthest extent (so the wipers are up on the ouside edges of the windshield).  You can get at them a lot easier that way.  

I went to the auto parts store (shall remain nameless).  The parts books for various brands of blade refills show both wipers being 24", one showed both at 22", one showed one at 24" and one at 22" and even one had both wipers at 17" (not sure how much of the windshield those wipers would have cleared).  The problem I found was that the wiper refills are packaged in pairs.  Fortunately, my wife's Cavalier needed its blades replaced (they are 22" and 17").  

I bought one package of 17", one 22" and one 24".  So now I have an extra 17" and 24" blade in case one of them rips.   I did not check the prices at the dealer, but I know that you can buy the blades individually there ( I purchased a set for the Calalier there about a year ago.).
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« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2004, 11:23:58 PM »

Newfie

Thanks for that bit of info,  without that knowledge I would have just bought what the books said and bought two blades at 24 inches and then been pissed when they run into each other as they move accross the windshield.

Im thinking about swapping to a better quality blade on my 'Tek as well, they still clear the windshield pretty good but the drivers side blade sometimes dances accross the windshield making that "BRRRRRRRRPP" sound that just aggrivates me... :angry:

Im pondering the triple-edge blades,  has anyone ever tried these?

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« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2004, 11:36:55 PM »

Another pretty neat thing Ive noticed on my 01 Tek is that there are little red marks painted in the windshield glass down in the cowl area.
These appear to be alignment marks for the assembly workers so they know where the wiper blades are supposed to sit on the windshield glass in the "parked" position.  
If you raise your hood and look at the base of your windshield you should see these two painted lines on the glass just under the center of each blade,  If your blades are not centered over the red lines, then Im guessing they arent properly adjusted anymore and might be causing them to lock together when in use.

Just a thought

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Newfie Hauler
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« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2004, 04:28:38 AM »

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Im thinking about swapping to a better quality blade on my 'Tek as well, they still clear the windshield pretty good but the drivers side blade sometimes dances accross the windshield making that "BRRRRRRRRPP" sound that just aggrivates me... :angry:

Im pondering the triple-edge blades,  has anyone ever tried these?
 
ANDE,

I know what you mean.  It could be that the spring in the wiper arm that holds the tension has begun to relax.  It can happen after a few years.  You may even want to invest in a couple new wiper arms.  I suspect that the paint on yours might be starting to dull a little anyway (they do after a couple years) and it might brighten your Tek up a bit.

As for the triple-edge blades, I found they work great in heavy rain, but in lighter mists and when using the windshield washers they were too effective.  By that I mean that they cleaned off too much too quickly and I found the wipers returning back to the park position dry (insert squeaking noise here).  I solved that by applying Rain X to the windshield.  That way I didn't have to use the wipers in the lighter rain/windshield washer situations.

I just got tires of putting on the Rain X and decided to return to conventional wipers blades.  Just my experience, maybe others have had better results.
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JediSkipdogg
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« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2004, 09:50:40 AM »

Newfie and company,

How about double bladed wipers?  I don't need any new ones at all yet, but I was looking in an auto store a month or so ago and saw some nice shiny blue wiper arms (also available in yellow, silver, red) that had dual blades on them.  They come individually (on arm only) so that it's easy to get the two sides the right length.  Would these be recommended?  Or do you think they would just look cool?
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Newfie Hauler
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« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2004, 10:16:47 AM »

Jedi,

I agree, they look cool.  However, in our climate they could pose some problems in the winter.  I can see the double blades getting clogged with ice really easy.  They are great in the summer and during heavy rain, but like the triple edge wipers they tend to run a little dry in light mists and when using the windshield washers.  

A friend of mine had them on his C/K truck.  He found that they lifted off the windshield at any speed over 65 miles per hour. Sad   I am not sure if it was just due to the design of the truck or if they would all do that or not.  Needless to say, he did not keep them on there for too long.

What about the idea of removing the wipers, taking the blades off and painting them?  Obviously, you would want to use a lower gloss paint to avoid reflections off of them (BTW: I have seen some of the double wipers in chrome, not a good idea due to the reflections).  You could probably get them painted to match your Tek and then instead of a clearcoat gloss, use a clearcoat satin (if they make it) instead.
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jaj1701
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« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2004, 10:29:05 AM »

Just FYI, I checked both my 2001 and 2002 manuals.

2001 = 24 and 24
2002 = 24 and 22

I never had problems with two 24s on my 01 but have 24/22 combination currently on my 02.   I know you can get 23" blades and was considering that instead of the 22.

As for wiper types, has anyone tried the HEATED wiper blades?HuhHuhHuhHuh?

I've found a few manufactures and thought they'd be real nice for perventing ice buildup on the blades and to get the thin sheet of ice cleared off from when I'm lazy and use my washer fludid to clear the windshild when it's too cold out.

 
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Newfie Hauler
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« Reply #37 on: April 28, 2004, 10:58:48 AM »

Heated Wiper Blades?  I have never known anyone to try them.  Do you know how they work?  I would think that they might be effective on the Tek because the wipers are protected from the elements by being placed under the rear of the hood.  It is tough to get in there with a window scraper anyway, because the wipers are in the way.  Who makes them?

Regarding the wiper sizes, interesting.  I wonder if they changed the sizes because they were colliding?  When I put the new baldes on my '02 and moved them back to the park position, if I would have had the 24" blades on both sides, I think they would have touched.  I think I read in either this posting or another about an owner's hood getting scratched or nicked when they had the blades replaced.  I can see how this can happen after doing mine because the blades are so long and the original ones have a metal insert.

Even though they are more expensive, it is easier to replace the whole blade assembly (not the arm, but the refill and what they call the superstructure above the blade).  Less chance you will damage your Tek and a whole lot quicker (slightly more expensive).
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JediSkipdogg
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« Reply #38 on: April 28, 2004, 01:41:40 PM »

I kinda like the painting idea.  Painting the metal part that hold the blade in, not the arm itself, will be cool.  Any idea of a good brand and type of paint to buy to try this?  Granted they will be kinda small compared to the ones I saw in the store, it will look much cooler cause I can say I did it.  And if they end up looking like poop, I can always just buy some new ones since they are cheap.  
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Newfie Hauler
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« Reply #39 on: April 28, 2004, 02:09:11 PM »

Jedi,

What kind of look are you trying to achieve.  I ask that because I am wondering what kind of color you are looking for (i.e. same color as your Tek, loud flashy neon color, contrasting color etc.).  Once I know the color I can go online and see what I can find.  I also assume you are looking for something you can spray yourself, with a paint can or an air compressorspray/gun?

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« Reply #40 on: April 28, 2004, 06:47:11 PM »

NEWFIE

Been there-Done that!
I've already removed and repainted my wiper arms and blade holders a nice Satin Black.  The drivers side arm was just starting to show a little paint wear when I bought the Tek.  So, I lightly sanded and resprayed them both.  Looks just like new again! :cooldude:

I even replaced the missing plastic buttons over the wiper arm posts!  Cheesy

Thats how I discovered the red lines in the windshield for properly adjusting the blades.  

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« Reply #41 on: April 28, 2004, 06:56:29 PM »

ANDE,

What brand of paint did you purchase to do this?  I think Jedi is looking to change the color to something a little more dramatic.  I am just wondering what the color options might be.  Even if the color is available in only a high gloss, I know a couple companies (Krylon and Duplicolor?) sell a satin clearcoat to dull the finish slightly.  Normally you would lightly sand the finish before adding the satin clearcoat, but I think you would risk "burning though" the paint and exposing the primer or the original base coat.
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JediSkipdogg
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« Reply #42 on: April 28, 2004, 08:36:19 PM »

I was thinking just a blue color to match my Tek...maybe a brighter blue though, one that still looks good though.  I'm the worst color person in the world therefore not sure what would look good...any advice would help...but I was thinkin blue.  And then like a shiny kinda clearcoat lookin finish.  And I'm lookin at a spraypaint cause I don't have a airspray gun.  Also advice on how to do this would be helpful to achieve a nice lookin finish.
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Newfie Hauler
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« Reply #43 on: April 28, 2004, 08:50:11 PM »

Jedi,

First the color, I think that I would stick to the exact color of your Tek.  Duplicolor and another company, I think it is called Paint Scratch.com sell spray cans of paint to match your Tek.  If you need help with finding the paint codes, email me and I can tell you more.

Finish:  I think you might be sorry painting them a high gloss finish because of the reflections.  The wipers kind of hide under the hood, but if the light hits them just right, you could be blinded (that is why they are satin finished now).

Method:  Have you ever applied wax to them before?  If so, you will want to remove it.  Liberal amounts of winshield washer fluid should remove any way buildup (let dry overnight and make sure no water is trapped in the hinged joints). If you have a good place to hang them (basement or garage rafters), remove the wiper refill (you will probably have to replace them as they don't come out easily), tie them up with some fishing line and spread a generous amount of newspaper under them and spray them in very light coats (three or four).  Don't worry if the first couple of coats do not cover the entire blade.  Follow the recommended times on the can for applications between coats and to let dry.

Best of Luck
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« Reply #44 on: April 28, 2004, 08:53:15 PM »

NEWFIE & JEDI

I bought the paint at "wally-world", I cant remember the brand but it was a better paint than duplicolor or Krylon I believe.  (Satin Black for automotive use only)

All I did was remove the wiper arm nuts and gently rocked the arms back and forth a little to get the arms to release from the shaft splines (you want to be careful in doing this, and make sure the wipers are in the parked position).  Then I removed all the retainer tabs that secure the washer fluid lines to the arms and gently disconnected the lines from the spray nozzles.
Then gently release the clips that secure the spray nozzles to the arms and remove them as well.  Then just remove the blades (rubber portion) from the blade holders and your all set to start painting.

Installation is the reverse of removal, the hardest part is threading the fluid line back through the tension spring.  (Took me a few tries to get it back through)
Also make sure the wiper blades are lined up with the red lines (wipers should still be in parked position) in the windshield prior to torqueing the arms down on the studs, this will ensure proper blade clearance when wipers are in use.

I'd have Jedi try and see if he can find some of that touch-up paint that comes in a spray can, the type that is "supposed" to match your paint code (might find this at wally-world too), or drop by the dealership and speak to the pro's in the body shop about doing the work for you to ensure a good color match.

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